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Should Ministers Opt Out of Social Security? it Depends! 1 Credit

Should Ministers Opt Out of Social Security? it Depends! 1 Credit

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Nov 27, 2024 | 11:00 AM ET

Learning Objective

  • To analyze the implications of opting out of Social Security on projected retirement funds, insurance coverage, and Medicare eligibility.
  • To identify the effects of the exemption on projected retirement funds, insurance coverage, and Medicare.
  • To discuss and define the six requirements for the exemption.
  • To analyze the preparation of IRS Form 4361—Application for Exemption from Self-Employment Tax for Use by Ministers, Members of Religious Orders, and Christian Science Practitioners

Course Overview

The question often arises among clergy members: "Should I opt out of Social Security?" For many ministers, Social Security doesn't align with their retirement investment goals. They seek alternatives for their hard-earned money. But can they opt out, and should they? These questions require informed answers, and this online course is designed to empower tax professionals with the knowledge and expertise needed to guide their clergy clients.

In this CE/CPE webinar, we delve into the intricacies of opting out of Social Security. Participants will learn about the far-reaching implications of this irrevocable exemption on projected retirement funds, insurance coverage, and Medicare eligibility. We will explore the six fundamental requirements that must be met to qualify for this exemption, equipping tax professionals with the necessary tools to assist their clients in making well-informed decisions regarding their financial future.

This CE Tax Webinar also covers the step-by-step process of preparing IRS Form 4361, the "Application for Exemption From Self-Employment Tax for Use by Ministers, Members of Religious Orders, and Christian Science Practitioners." By gaining expertise in this critical area of clergy taxation, tax professionals will be better equipped to address their clients' concerns and provide comprehensive advice on Social Security opt-out decisions.

Become a trusted advisor to your clergy clients, offering them valuable insights and guidance on their Social Security options. Enroll now to enhance your expertise and provide informed assistance on this essential aspect of tax planning.

Major Topics Covered in this course:

  • U.S. Tax Law for Ministers
  • What could go wrong?
  • Requirements for application for exemption
  • Filing a timely Form 4361
  • Interesting tax court cases

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  • 1 CPE Credit of Taxes for Certified Public Accountants (CPA-US)
  • 1 General Credit of Taxes for Accountant/Bookkeeper/Tax Professionals
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Enrolled Agents (EA) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-S)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Annual Filing Season Program (AFSP) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-S)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for California Registered Tax Preparers (CRTP) (Approval No. 6273-CE-1434)
  • 1 CPD Credit of Taxes for Personal Financial Specialist (PFS)
  • 1 PL Credit of Taxes for Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA)
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Chartered Financial Consultant (ChFC)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Maryland Tax Preparer (MRTP) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-S)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Oregon Registered Tax Preparers (ORTP) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-S)
  • 1 CE Credit of Financial Planning for Certified Senior Advisor (CSA)
  • 1 CPD Credit for Trust and Estate Practitioners (TEP)
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Retirement Income Certified Professional (RICP)
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Certified Wealth Strategist (CWS)
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Certified Fiduciary and Investment Risk Specialist (CFIRS)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for LTC (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-S)
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Financial Services Certified Professional (FSCP)
  • 1 CE Credit of Financial Planning for Certified Plan Fiduciary Advisor (CPFA)/Qualified Plan Financial Consultant (QPFC)
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Wealth Management Certified Professional (WMCP)
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Chartered Advisor in Senior Living (CASL)
  • 1 CPE Credit of Taxes for Iowa Licensed Public Accountant (IA-LPA)
  • 1 PL Credit of Taxes for CIPM
  • 1 CE Credit of Taxes for Chartered Special Needs Consultant (ChSNC)
  • 1 CPE Credit of Taxes for Maine Licensed Public Accountant (ME-LPA)
  • 1 CPE Credit of Taxes for Delaware Licensed Public Accountant (DE-LPA)

  • 1.5 CPE Credit of Taxes for Certified Public Accountants (CPA-US)
  • 1.5 General Credit of Taxes for Accountant/Bookkeeper/Tax Professionals
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Enrolled Agents (EA) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-O)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Annual Filing Season Program (AFSP) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-O)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for California Registered Tax Preparers (CRTP) (Approval No. 6273-CE-1434)
  • 1.5 CPD Credit of Tax Planning for Personal Financial Specialist (PFS)
  • 1.5 PL Credit of Taxes for Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Chartered Financial Consultant (ChFC)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Maryland Tax Preparer (MRTP) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-O)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for Oregon Registered Tax Preparers (ORTP) (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-O)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Financial aspects of estate and retirement planning for Certified Senior Advisor (CSA)
  • 1.5 CPD Credit for Trust and Estate Practitioners (TEP)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Retirement Income Certified Professional (RICP)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Certified Wealth Strategist (CWS)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Certified Fiduciary and Investment Risk Specialist (CFIRS)
  • 1 CE Credit of Federal tax-related matters for LTC (Approval No. GEHNZ-T-01793-23-O)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Financial Services Certified Professional (FSCP)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Financial Planning for Certified Plan Fiduciary Advisor (CPFA)/Qualified Plan Financial Consultant (QPFC)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Wealth Management Certified Professional (WMCP)
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Chartered Advisor in Senior Living (CASL)
  • 1.5 CPE Credit of Taxes for Iowa Licensed Public Accountant (IA-LPA)
  • 1.5 PL Credit of Taxes for CIPM
  • 1.5 CE Credit of Taxes for Chartered Special Needs Consultant (ChSNC)
  • 1.5 CPE Credit of Taxes for Maine Licensed Public Accountant (ME-LPA)
  • 1.5 CPE Credit of Taxes for Delaware Licensed Public Accountant (DE-LPA)

Additional Information

Credits

1

Course Level

Basic

Instructional Method

QAS Self Study
Group Internet Based

Pre-requisites

None

Advance Preparation

None

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About Instructor

Bill Davidson (EA, MDiv, ThM) has worked with ministers’ tax returns and planning for over 35 years.  He is keenly aware how the unique (and contradictory) regulations regarding the taxation of clergy compensation has frequently led to misinformation and inaccuracy.  As Manager with a prominent tax firm he was the “go to” authority for tax professionals who had questions about clergy tax matters.  As an ordained minister himself, he has keen insight into the needs of clergy clients.  

His career as Senior Pastor of churches and Tax Manager specializing in tax preparation and planning for ministers has uniquely prepared him to assist tax professionals in serving their clergy clients.  He also volunteers with the local IRS VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) program for the underserved sponsored through the United Way.

His courses are more than a “talking head,” charts, and words on a screen.  He brings a creative and refreshing approach to this distinctive area of tax knowledge that provides ample practical examples applying the material presented.

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Deborah Seifert, EA

I thought that this webinar was very thorough; however, since this is the first time I have actually studied this topic in any detail, there is a great deal that I would need to repeat and study in depth. I will surely be downloading the handouts for future study and use. I do not consider myself even minimally prepared to complete a minister's tax return. The key to the eligibility for exemption, is that the application must be timely filed and the applicants motives must fall into specific align with the tax code.

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Gloria Smith, EA

I have a dear friend who represents ministers and churches in Florida. She has mentored me over the years. However, Minister Davidson has taught me so much and I am grateful that he is such a good and patient teacher to help me better advise my Pastoral clients.

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